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	<title>Comments on: Antarctic Temperature Trends</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Keep</title>
		<link>http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/05/09/antarctic-temperature-trends/#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Keep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post but the GISS June anomoly seems to show amajor cooling evnt in the interior of Antarctica http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2008&#38;month_last=6&#38;sat=4&#38;sst=0&#38;type=anoms&#38;mean_gen=06&#38;year1=2008&#38;year2=2008&#38;base1=1951&#38;base2=1980&#38;radius=1200&#38;pol=reg
Seems to be major cooling there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post but the GISS June anomoly seems to show amajor cooling evnt in the interior of Antarctica <a href="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2008&amp;month_last=6&amp;sat=4&amp;sst=0&amp;type=anoms&amp;mean_gen=06&amp;year1=2008&amp;year2=2008&amp;base1=1951&amp;base2=1980&amp;radius=1200&amp;pol=reg" >http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2008&amp;month_last=6&amp;sat=4&amp;sst=0&amp;type=anoms&amp;mean_gen=06&amp;year1=2008&amp;year2=2008&amp;base1=1951&amp;base2=1980&amp;radius=1200&amp;pol=reg</a><br />
Seems to be major cooling there</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Petit</title>
		<link>http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/05/09/antarctic-temperature-trends/#comment-2903</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Petit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, we have now placed the US AGO temperature measurements on the GTS. We have spotty measurements for the six sites listed on:

http://space.augsburg.edu/ago/status.html

for the past 15 years. A student has done some preliminary work on temperature trends and we presented at AMS in January. I don't have the paper on the internet yet but will try to get it roughed out for your viewing. 

Any one interested in these data can contact me from the web page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, we have now placed the US AGO temperature measurements on the GTS. We have spotty measurements for the six sites listed on:</p>
<p><a href="http://space.augsburg.edu/ago/status.html" >http://space.augsburg.edu/ago/status.html</a></p>
<p>for the past 15 years. A student has done some preliminary work on temperature trends and we presented at AMS in January. I don&#8217;t have the paper on the internet yet but will try to get it roughed out for your viewing. </p>
<p>Any one interested in these data can contact me from the web page.</p>
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		<title>By: Atmoz</title>
		<link>http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/05/09/antarctic-temperature-trends/#comment-2707</link>
		<dc:creator>Atmoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first graph above clearly has a positive temperature trend. The next two graphs are not obvious. They have small trends, one positive and one negative. According to the link in the second comment, the trends are not significant at the +90% level. The trends in other Antarctic data show positive trends, especially in West Antarctica.

Also, I think you're confusing this blog with others, but I mainly focus on small topics (e.g. surface station temperature interpretation) or meta-topic (e.g. the role of science in society). I've decided that my policy on blog comments would be to allow pretty much everything, and let readers evaluate their usefulness. 

Sometimes it's not worth it to respond to comments. My time is worth something. And if I don't respond to certain questions or comments it's because I hope someone else will have the time that I lack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first graph above clearly has a positive temperature trend. The next two graphs are not obvious. They have small trends, one positive and one negative. According to the link in the second comment, the trends are not significant at the +90% level. The trends in other Antarctic data show positive trends, especially in West Antarctica.</p>
<p>Also, I think you&#8217;re confusing this blog with others, but I mainly focus on small topics (e.g. surface station temperature interpretation) or meta-topic (e.g. the role of science in society). I&#8217;ve decided that my policy on blog comments would be to allow pretty much everything, and let readers evaluate their usefulness. </p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s not worth it to respond to comments. My time is worth something. And if I don&#8217;t respond to certain questions or comments it&#8217;s because I hope someone else will have the time that I lack.</p>
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		<title>By: Radar</title>
		<link>http://atmoz.org/blog/2008/05/09/antarctic-temperature-trends/#comment-2706</link>
		<dc:creator>Radar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm fairly new to the climate sites and blogs, and I'm trying to develop my own opinion of the state of the science and how I personally want to react.  

There are a number of comments on this site about how to not alienate the public such that their sensibilties or push them into the denialist camp.  There's even some talk about the attitude at Real Climate.  

This entry started as a look at data from Antartica.  Instead of answering the THREE different requests to confirm that the data showed no temperature rise and comment on that point, or replying to the large number of links and data posted by kuhnkat related to geothermal / volcanic activity in the region of the ice shelves, you guys chose to post:

"Watts is ignorant or delibrately misleading"
"Watts is a dyed in the wool solar crazy"
"Watts is ignorant and misleading."
Watts is a "weasel".
McIntyre is a pussy with tits.

Are you seriously wondering why the public is turned off by your message in person or when looking on the net???????? 

Forget answering the questions, don't comment on the posted data links and lets just insult everybody en masse.  Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fairly new to the climate sites and blogs, and I&#8217;m trying to develop my own opinion of the state of the science and how I personally want to react.  </p>
<p>There are a number of comments on this site about how to not alienate the public such that their sensibilties or push them into the denialist camp.  There&#8217;s even some talk about the attitude at Real Climate.  </p>
<p>This entry started as a look at data from Antartica.  Instead of answering the THREE different requests to confirm that the data showed no temperature rise and comment on that point, or replying to the large number of links and data posted by kuhnkat related to geothermal / volcanic activity in the region of the ice shelves, you guys chose to post:</p>
<p>&#8220;Watts is ignorant or delibrately misleading&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Watts is a dyed in the wool solar crazy&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Watts is ignorant and misleading.&#8221;<br />
Watts is a &#8220;weasel&#8221;.<br />
McIntyre is a pussy with tits.</p>
<p>Are you seriously wondering why the public is turned off by your message in person or when looking on the net???????? </p>
<p>Forget answering the questions, don&#8217;t comment on the posted data links and lets just insult everybody en masse.  Sad.</p>
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